Kaia Kater shocked the folk music world with her 2018 album Grenades, but six years later, she has now released a new album, somewhat more of a cinematic odyssey with folky elements.
She’s still strapped with the banjo on the new album, Strange Medicine, on a few tracks, but also worked with drums, bass, a horn section, strings, synthesizers… It’s a bigger, more ambitious album for Kaia Kater and we spoke to her about that process, inspiration, working on film projects, her acceptance of playing the banjo and navigating the world as a black folk artist.
Originally from Philadelphia when he started his career among former members of The Roots, Joshua Abrams has long been key musician to Chicago creative new music, hybridising free jazz with western minimalism, North-African Gnawa music and other cultural sources. This eight-piece version of his band Natural Information Society — which ABRAMS dubs the “Community Ensemble” — plays unfolding and layered trance-inducing rhythms and melds, among other elements. Scott Thomson, the new FIMAV’s artistic director, has told PAN M 360 that this group has been one of the most beautiful concerts he bought at Guelph music festival where he was also artistic director for 7 years. So? We talk to Joshua Abrams!
PAN M 360 : The guimbri, a gnawa luth that many people from Occident discovered with the famous Moroccan group Nas El Ghiwane in the early 80’s, is a central instrument in the Natural Information Society. Can you tell us how your love and dedication for this instrument started? What does guembri bring in your ensemble’s sound? How do you see it as a soloist instrument?
Joshua Abrams : I first heard the guimbri played by Malleem Mahmoud Ghania on the record he made w/ Pharoah Sanders, The Trance of The Seven Colors. as a bassist it grabbed my ear and imagination. It has a very vocal quality and brings together low tones and percussive sounds in a profound way. Advanced technology for centering the mind. It allows me to bring together many musical interests and methods including composition & improvisation in a personal way.
PAN M 360 : I suppose you were the first double bass player before moving from Philadelphia to Chicago, isn’t right? Is bass still as important for you as guimbri today?
Joshua Abrams : Yes, the double bass remains my primary instrument. I play it often in many different situations & on many recordings.
PAN M 360: By the way, do you still nourish human relationships with some former members of The Roots ?
Joshia Abrams : Yes
PAN M 360 : Of course your path is quite different in Chicago where you embraced this creative music whose origins lie in free jazz’s AACM community, post-rock, footwork or post-house experiments. You are obviously evolving in a different ecosystem! What led you to settle in Chicago?
Joshua Abrams : The music !
PAN M 360 : The expression Natural Information appeared in 2010 in your discography. Can you remind us of the background of this expression?
Joshua Abrams : It seemed like a potent combination of two common words that i had never heard used together. Natural Information is a good descriptor for where I enjoy focusing my attention and a good aspiration for what the music could be.
PAN M 360: How did Natural Information Society evolved since?
Joshua Abrams : We have released seven albums with varying lineups, orchestrations and musical personalities. I’ve written different bodies of music for each of those configurations to explore together . The quartet of myself with Lisa Alvarado, Mikel Patrick Avery and Jason Stein plays the most frequently but on special occasions such as FIMAV the larger version of Natural Information Society Community Ensemble gets to play .
PAN M 360 : How do you see linkage between traditional music and contemporary experiments in music?
Joshua Abrams : I’m mostly interested in music’s vitality. For me whether something is old or new, traditional or experimental takes a back seat to the energy the music can share. All strategies are welcome.
PAN M 360: Lisa Alvarado, harmonium ; Mikel Patrick Avery, drums ; Berman, cornet ; Kara Bershad, harp Hamid Drake, conga, tabla, tar , Ben Lamar Gay, cornet ; Nick Mazzarella, alto saxophone ; Jason Stein, bass clarinet ; Mai Sugimoto, alto saxophone, flute; Ari Brown, tenor saxophone. Can you comment briefly about each role in this ensemble?
Joshua Abrams : We try to build a web with our sounds where the nuances of everyone’s changes can be heard and felt and the music can evolve gradually. Everyone in the group are amazing musicians & artists in their own right and I’m honored by their participation. I write the pieces and lead the group. Lisa plays harmonium and creates our stage settings, she is my partner in the world and Natural Information Society. Mikel has been with the group for a long time and we have developed a strong intuitive musical bond. Hamid is a musical master, a mentor and a dear friend. But really the history of music making and friendship runs throughout all of the members of the group. Musical facility is important but patience , discipline and attitude are even more important. All of the horns in the group recognize this and are willing to put aside the impulse to play on top of the ensemble and embrace being part of our collective sound.
PAN M 360: According to the official program put online by the Victoriaville festival, Ari Brown is the featured soloist on tenor saxophone. Can you tell us how you built your artistic relationship with him? Also how do you want to feature him in this concert?
Joshua Abrams : There is an old tradition in Chicago of the tenor saxophone being used as a sophisticated technology for human well being. Ari is currently the foremost practitioner of this tradition. We met years ago when he asked me to fill in for his bass player who was stuck in traffic. Recently he has participated on some of my film scores & with Natural Information Society. I have filled in from time to time with his band and we have an improv trio with Mike Reed.
PAN M 360 : What will be your next recording and live projects in music? Joshua Abrams : New music is getting close! There is also a collaboration with Bitchin Bajas that is close. Many other things have been recorded, a duo with Joëlle Léandre …
We continue our interviews with the last three finalists of the Concours musical international de Montréal (CMIM).
Here’s what American Derek Wang, Canadian Jaeden Izik-Dzurko and Pole Jakub Kuszlik had to say after their dress rehearsal with the Orchestre symphonique de Montréal, under the baton of guest conductor Xian Zhang. The three finalists will perform Tchaikovsky’s Concerto No. 1, Brahms’ Concerto No. 2 and Rachmaninov’s Concerto No. 2, in that order.
PAN M 360: What’s your current state of mind, with just a few hours to go before your final round of the competition?
Derek Wang: This Tchaikovsky is a piece of such grand high emotions. So, it suits the culmination of what’s been a really spectacular event for me in the last two weeks here in Montreal. Of course, as a pianist, I’m just trying to keep it simple and remember that however grand these feelings are, they have to be expressed by pushing down keys that only go down an inch and it’s within that inch or less really that everything has to be expressed. I’m trying to live through and genuinely feel these great heights of emotion and keep it tight, simple and controlled.
Jaeden Izik-Dzurko: There are a lot of specific musical things that I’m thinking about based on what happened at the rehearsal, little tweaks that I want to make, things I have to keep in mind. But in general, I feel very good. It was such a privilege to be playing this beautiful concerto with such incredible collaborators. Maestra Zhang is remarkable and very clear and expressive. Of course, the orchestra sounds fantastic. I’m very excited for tonight
Jakub Kuszlik: Definitely a little bit nervous. I don’t know if there’s anyone who can completely relax before the finals of a big competition, but I’m trying to stay focus, maybe take a rest, and after that, I will probably practice and try to fix some issues that occurred during the rehearsal.
PAN M 360 : Of all the concertos available in the repertoire, why did you choose this one and why?
Derek Wang: You know, I actually didn’t love Tchaikovsky, my whole life. Surprisingly, I sort of discovered other parts of the symphonic repertoire earlier, but it’s been only in the last few years that I think I’ve really gotten bitten hard by this Tchaikovsky bug.
For me, in addition to the extraordinary power of this concerto, there’s an incredible tenderness in the phrasing, an incredible delicacy in the way that he leads you from one idea to the next and I think these moments, the transitional moments in this piece, are the ones that are so fascinating for me. Because, the big climaxes are the parts everyone knows and loves, they actually depend on how you get there and how, once you’ve gotten to a climax or even in some cases, a crisis in the music, you come out of it. That’s what matters. I was really drawn to the idea of personalizing the experience of the piece for me because when I started to study it, I realized that you have to come up with your own answers to many of these questions.
The score is very economical in a beautiful way. I think it is one of the reasons why so many musicians are drawn to it. It’s because whoever you are you have to approach the piece from your own personal experience. You can’t disconnect emotionally from it.
Jaeden Izik-Dzurko: I wanted to perform it for a long time, and I made my initial attempt at learning it, perhaps I was a little bit too young several years ago and set it aside, and then really started picking it back up in the fall of this year. It’s probably one of the monuments of the piano concerto repertoire. It’s just so fast in its scale and ambitious with four movements unlike the traditional three that most concertos have. It also includes such beautiful orchestration. It’s almost like a symphony in many regards. There’s a beautiful cello solo in the third movement, the famous horn solos in the first movement. It really feels like I’m collaborating with the orchestra in a meaningful way, which it’s a wonderful experience with such great musicians.
Jakub Kuszlik: It’s a beautiful piece of music, definitely. When I was a teenager, I just fell in love with that piece. I always dreamed of playing something like this in a big hall with a great symphonic orchestra. I think my dream finally came true.
PAN M 360: What do you want to express through this work?
Derek Wang: For me, the message of the concerto and in particular, the first movement, I just marvel so much at how he delays the final victory until the very last minute. Before that there is so much angst. There’s great moments like I said earlier of tenderness and of hope but they seem to start from a very hopeful place and then end in a very dark place. And it’s only at the very, very last minute that, in the blink of an eye, we change from this struggle to an incredible almost manic happiness. If I can take people through this piece, which is more than the big theme at the beginning and the flashy octaves in the middle, it’s actually an emotional structure, over the course of those eighteen minutes from the first movement, right up to the very last point, I’ll be happy.
Jaeden Izik-Dzurko: It’s mostly a consequence of Brahms’s writing, but I think the work has almost a feel of a vulnerability to it. Brahms’s really wears his heart on his sleeve and he’s not afraid to be intimate in spite of the grandeur of the concerto. The melodic writing is deeply personal. There is something just very sincere, heartfelt and personal about the writing that I hope to be able to transmit in my performance.
Jakub Kuszlik: I definitely want to underline the lyricism that is hidden in that concerto. I’m trying to play it as beautifully as possible. Some people, I think, treat it as a show off piece, maybe a little bit too much. It definitely has big potential to be a show of piece, but for me, it has really beautiful and expressive moments that really touch your soul. So, I really want to try to focus on those places that are more intimate
We’re entering the final days of the 2024 edition of the Concours musical international de Montréal, this year devoted to the piano. Six young pianists from five different countries will be vying for the top spot on the podium in an all-male final that will reach its ultimate conclusion on May 16th. In the run-up to the final, which takes place today and Thursday, we spoke to the finalists after their dress rehearsal with the OSM, the official orchestra of the competition, conducted by guest conductor Xian Zhang, just a few hours before the competition.
To begin with, here are Elias Ackerley (UK; South Korea), who will play Tchaikovsky’s Concerto No. 1, Anthony Ratinov (USA), who will perform Prokofiev’s Concerto No. 3, and Gabriele Strata (Italy), who will conclude the evening by also performing Tchaikovsky’s Concerto No. 1.
PAN M 360: What’s your current state of mind, with just a few hours to go before your final round of the competition?
Elias Ackerley: Right now, I’ve got nothing to lose. So I’ll just consider it a wonderful performance. I think it’s a great venue, and the orchestra’s great. I’m just going to try and enjoy myself.
Anthony Ratinov: I think at this point, the hardest part is over. I think the pre-selection and semi-final rounds were much more stressful. I recognize how much luck is involved with competitions to get to the final and be among the six finalists. I recognize how lucky I was because the level has been extraordinarily high in this competition from the very beginning.
For me, the goal of competitions is to be able to play with such wonderful orchestras and conductors and in such nice halls. It’s an opportunity to share my music and my artistry with the audience. So, at this point, I’m really excited. I’m not nearly as stressed as I was a week ago. I truly think that the hard part is over and that now this part is just fun. So, right now, I’m very focused because, of course, I want to play as well as I can, but I’m also insisting to my body and mind that I have to enjoy every step of the way, because otherwise, what’s the point?
Gabriele Strata: I’m so excited. I can’t wait, and I just want to play! It’s an incredible place; the orchestra is magnificent, and so is the conductor. I’m not anxious or stressed. It’s really just joy in my spirit for tonight. For me, just being here, I’ve already won. Now all I want to do is enjoy the moment and make music.
PAN M 360 : Of all the concertos available in the repertoire, why did you choose this one and why?
Elias Ackerley: I think Tchaikovsky’s Piano Concerto No. 1 is probably one of the most ultimate concertos in the piano repertoire. It’s just a beautifully constructed composition, and I think it’s wonderful to play it, and you can really express a lot of things through that piece.
Anthony Ratinov: I chose Prokofiev’s Third Piano Concerto for this finale, because it has always been a very special piece for me. It was the first piece I fell in love with when I was younger and discovering classical music. The recording of Martha Argerich playing this concerto when she was younger simply moved me and made me want to be a musician, especially to play this piece with an orchestra.
In this particular piece by Prokofiev, the orchestra is so integral with the piano that it gives the impression that they are one. It’s a piece that I love, a piece I play very well, and I love playing it every opportunity I get. It highlights a lot of my strengths pianistically. I played Prokofiev’s Eighth Piano Sonata in the semi-final, and it’s also one of my favorite pieces. They’re very different pieces, but there are similarities, although there are some extraordinary differences too, and it’s really great fun to play with them.
Gabriele Strata: It’s certainly not an atypical choice! But I really love the piece. It’s full of incredible melodies, beautiful lines, and lyricism. Also, it’s for a practical reason. It’s a concerto I’ve played many times, so it’s always nice to have a piece very close to me for orchestral playing. It makes me feel more comfortable on stage, too.
PAN M 360: What do you want to express through this work?
Elias Ackerley: I think one of the aspects I really treasure in this concerto is the softer parts. Because, everyone knows that it’s a loud concerto and that it’s extremely magnificent, royal, even in a certain sense. But I want to express the gems qualities of the second movement and of the other softer sections.
Anthony Ratinov: I think my goal is to express certain characteristics of Prokofiev’s music that are often overlooked. Prokofiev is very well known for his mechanical and warlike pieces, and of course there’s a lot of that energy in this piece, but there’s also a lot of Russian fairy tales and imagination. For me, these are the most beautiful moments in the piece. In the first movement, after explosions of sound and texture, we have these beautiful moments of intimacy and magic that are really connected.
My family is from Russia, so I grew up hearing all these Russian fairy tales and stories of ice princesses, evil witches and wizards, and so on. Being able to communicate that to the listener is really important and really fulfilling for me.Gabriele Strata: It really is kaleidoscopic music. There are so many emotions in this concerto. What I think of when I listen to and play this music is ballet. It really is ballet music written for piano and orchestra. For me, the ultimate goal is to be able to paint this atmosphere and this picture.
McGill University’s Schulich School of Music presents Musical Chairs, a chamber music festival, from Friday, May 17 to Saturday, May 25, featuring 8 ensembles from music conservatories around the world, with 7 guest teachers, for a total of 37 musicians. The guest ensembles will all perform at the beginning of the week, and will then mix with Schulich students to form 21 new groups.
More specifically, the delegations come from the Norwegian Academy of Music (Norway), the Sibelius Academy (Finland), the Central Conservatory of Music (China), the Queensland Conservatory of Griffith University (Australia), the Guildhall School of Music and Drama (England), the University Mozarteum of Salzburg (Austria), the USC Thornton School of Music (USA), the Yong Siew Toh Conservatory of Music (Singapore).
Tenured professor and head of the Performance Department at the Schulich School, pianist Stéphane Lemelin is also artistic director of the Jeux de chaises festival. Hence this video interview with PAN M 360.
In 2003, British composer Will Todd (b. 1970) wrote a spectacular jazz choral work: Mass in Blue. Originally written for soloist, choir and big band, it will be performed for a rare occurrence in Quebec at Place des Arts’ Cinquième salle on Sunday, May 19 at 1pm. For the occasion, it will be performed in a more chamber version, but just as exciting, featuring a jazz quartet (piano, sax, double bass and drums) and a classical soprano as soloist. The hybrid, resolutely solar work, is extremely popular, though difficult to stage as it requires first-rate performers, well grounded in their jazz improvisatory impulses, but also in a need for classical technical rigor. A challenge taken up by young choral conductor Lorenzo Somma, recently seen as musical and choral director in productions such as Les Choristes and Hair. I caught up with the friendly musician to find out more about this work, which makes for a memorable listening experience, trust me.
She plays the morin khuur, an instrument also known as the “horse-head fiddle”, because its scroll is traditionally carved like an equine head. Some also compare it to a kind of cello from the Far East, but this is reductive, as Uuriintuya Khalivan explains in my interview with her. Although it has certain similarities, and is played in a similar position and with a bow, its sound characteristics are quite different. The young Montreal-based artist will be sharing a concert with Iranian Sadaf Amini on the santur. A unique encounter, perhaps even a world premiere, this will be the result of a creative residency supported by the Centre des Musiciens du Monde. The artist will be performing at the Festival du Centre des Musiciens du Monde. I invite you to listen HERE to the interview I conducted with Frédéric Léotar, Co-founder and General Manager of the Centre, who talks in detail about the festival, whose 7th edition is entitled Les routes de la soie au féminin.
Pan M 360 : Hello Uuriintuya, What is your musical background?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : I come from the Halivan clan of the Barag tribe in Mongolia. I graduated from the Central University for Nationalities in China in 2010, majoring in music performance. I worked as a solo morin khuur performer in the Chinese Coal Mine Art Troupe for 12 years.
Pan M 360 : How did you first discover this instrument, the morinkhuur?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : My father is a poet, writer, and also a journalist for our local newspaper. When I was 12 years old, he went to attend a conference in another city, and when he returned, he gave me a gift. It was a morin khuur.
Pan M 360 : So what is the morin khuur? Where does it come from?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : It is an instrument in the family of bowed string instruments. It is also referred to as the ‘’Horesehead fiddle’’ because, as you can see, it always has a carved wooden horse head at the top.
Before modern improvements to the instrument, many materials extracted from horses were used in the construction of the morin khuur, including strings made from horsehair and the resonator box covered with horsehide.
There is a legend on the grasslands about the morin khuur: There was a young Mongolian man named Suhe, who had a beloved horse that they grew up together with. This horse was exceptional, winning many horse races, which stirred jealousy in others. Unfortunately, one day, his horse was secretly shot and killed, leaving him heartbroken. That night, he dreamt of his horse, which said to him: “Please use my skull, my bones, and my tail to make an instrument. When you miss me, play it.”
Of course, researchers document that the morin khuur dates back to around the 3rd century BCE among the Donghu people. But I prefer to tell the legendary story.
Pan M 360 : Can we compare it to a form of western cello?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : Certainly, they are both bowed string instruments. In terms of sound impression, there have been Western journalists who referred to the morin khuur as the “Eastern cello,” but this is somewhat one-sided. Perhaps these journalists only heard a certain style of monophonic performance on the morin khuur, which may have some tonal similarities to the cello. However, the morin khuur also has overtone techniques, which are quite unique.
In terms of instrument construction, they are completely different. The resonator box of the morin khuur is smaller compared to the cello, and the morin khuur has two sets of strings (the outer set has 110 strings, and the inner set has 90 strings), with 5 different tuning methods.
These two instruments have different ranges and frequencies.
Pan M 360 : What is the importance of this instrument in Mongolian culture?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : The morin khuur in Mongolian culture is not just a musical instrument or an object : it carries rich cultural and spiritual significance. It holds profound meaning in the lives of Mongolian people, seen as a bridge connecting humans with nature and the spiritual realm.
First, let me give you an example: In Mongolia, there is a morin khuur known as the “National Master’s Morin Khuur,” which is played by the most outstanding performers during national celebrations. I haven’t heard of any similar tradition in other countries.
Furthermore, the morin khuur holds significant importance in the daily lives of Mongolian people. As an ancient traditional instrument, it is regarded as a sacred item capable of bringing good luck and protection to families. Therefore, even if there is no one in the household who can play the morin khuur, it is often kept at home as a sacred object, serving as a symbol of divine blessing and family well-being.
The morin khuur in Mongolian culture is not merely a musical instrument, it is a symbol, a belief, carrying the emotional and ideological values of the Mongolian people towards life, nature, and tradition.
Pan M 360 : Are there many people playing it in Mongolia?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : In the past century, due to global peace, there has been a great opportunity for the development of traditional culture. Thanks to the efforts of predecessors, the appreciation from audiences, and the dedication of composers, more and more people are learning to play the morin khuur.
Nowadays, the performance forms of the morin khuur are not limited to solo performances. There are also chamber music duets, quartets, and even professional symphonic orchestras with morin khuur sections.
In Mongolia, every three years, there is an international morin khuur competition proposed by the president. Because Mongolians have migrated to various parts of the world in recent years, international competitions are now held every three years in China, Europe, and the closest United States as well.
Pan M 360 : When did you come to Canada and why?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : I came to Montreal in the summer of 2018 with my family for tourism. After the trip, I had many reflections, so six months later, I came to Montreal again.
Pan M 360 : What made you choose Montreal now?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : I enjoy traveling to unfamiliar places and have visited various countries in the United States and Europe for work. When I traveled to Montreal in 2018, I found myself asking strangers for directions when I got lost. I noticed that people spoke many languages : most spoke French, and if I couldn’t understand, they would switch to English, and sometimes even switch to other languages when conversing with their companions. As a music professional, this auditory novelty and stimulation were quite exciting for me, and I loved the feeling of exploring the unknown. This is what makes Montreal truly unique.
During that trip, a museum left a profound impression on me as it narrated a story. The story depicted a moment when a great flood was about to engulf the city, and a missionary erected a cross atop a hill and began to pray. Miraculously, the flood receded after the prayer. This cultural narrative instilled in me a sense of sacred reverence, something I hadn’t experienced elsewhere. Whenever I see or pass by Mount Royal, I am reminded of it.
Montreal also hosts year-round music festivals and art exhibitions. It’s inclusive, diverse, friendly, and harmonious.
This city makes me feel spiritually serene, as if it’s under divine protection. Moreover, it ignites my inner curiosity and provides daily opportunities for self-enrichment and learning. I believe Montreal can make me become stronger and more enriched, hence my deep affection for this city.
Pan M 360 : What do you think of the musical opportunities in Montreal?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : The music opportunities in Montreal are vast and diverse, waiting for me to explore. From community performances to concerts in music halls, there’s a wide range of genres including traditional, electronic, experimental, avant-garde, and ethnic music. Each genre presents a new challenge, making the exploration of the unknown truly exhilarating.
Audiences in this city come from all over the world, with open-minded tastes appreciating various kinds of music. It’s worth mentioning that they offer the warmest encouragement and the most enthusiastic applause.
Pan M 360 : Do you play mostly traditional music? What kind of other music do you like, or what music influences you?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : It’s mainly traditional, but I’ve also experimented with various styles such as live musicals, experimental, metal, pop, and more. As a professional in the music industry, I must listen to a wide variety of music. When I was young and learning the violin, I listened to a lot of classical music, such as Chopin, Tchaikovsky, and Bach. Later, when I started learning the morin khuur, I immersed myself in traditional music, including long songs and throat singing. As I grew older, during my teenage years and college, like many peers, I listened to heavy metal, rock, and rap. After entering the workforce, I began exploring jazz, experimental music, and electronic music from France. Before coming to Montreal, I knew about Leonard Cohen and Céline Dion, but my French teacher introduced me to local Quebec folk songs, such as Gilles Vigneault’s “Jack Monoloy”. I’m actually more interested in contemplating the creative motivations behind music and the emotions that can’t be expressed in words.
Pan M 360 : Tell me about your upcoming concert with Sadaf Amini. What are you going to play?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : The theme of our performance this time is the Silk Road. In fact, whether in ancient times or modern times, we all live on the same planet. We have many similarities and many differences. Through the language of music, from unfamiliarity to familiarity, from the grasslands to the deserts, we have tacitly created many wonderful imaginations.
Pan M 360 : What do you think of the collaboration with her?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : Sadaf is an extremely mature performer, meticulous in her work, and full of imagination. In fact, my English may not accurately convey my true intent, but our communication is very fast and effective. When she first played the Santur instrument in front of me, I was impressed by her perfect performance. I am honored to have the opportunity to collaborate with such a perfect professional musician.
For the morin khuur, this marks the first-ever ensemble with the Santur instrument in history. I’d call it a perfect exploration, and we’re all looking forward to it.
Pan M 360 : What do you think of the Centre des Musiciens du Monde (CMM)?
Uuriintuya Khalivan : It is a highly valuable institution. It provides a platform for musicians to interact, learn, and collaborate with each other. By organizing various music events, workshops, and performances, it facilitates communication and understanding between different cultures. This plays a crucial role in advancing the development and dissemination of world music. Additionally, the CMM can offer resources and support to musicians, helping them further develop their talents and showcase their work on the international stage. Overall, the CMM plays a significant role in promoting musical cultural diversity and enhancing global music exchange.
Pan M 360 : What are your projects in the coming months, and years?
Uuriintuya Khalivan :I plan to continue participating in and supporting various activities and projects of the CMM. Next month, there will be a concert at the CMM featuring Mongolian music. In August, as in previous years, I expect to participate in the Orientalys festival held at the Old Port, which is a project showcasing Mongolian culture organized by the Canadian Mongolian Cultural Association. Additionally, I am applying for the Quebec Skilled Worker Program in Montreal and hope to obtain permanent residency. As the only musician in Canada playing the morin khuur, I aim to expand my musical knowledge and skills by applying to study composition at the University of Montreal’s music school. I will continue to strive to showcase my music on the international stage, collaborate with other musicians, and seek opportunities for advancement. Furthermore, I have been involved in a music education project aimed at sharing my experience and knowledge to help more people interested in learning to play the morin khuur. Overall, I will persistently pursue the development and innovation of music and contribute to the flourishing of diverse musical culture.
Montreal’s Centre des Musiciens du Monde (World Musicians’ Center) is now in the 7th year of its annual festival. This year, it’s the Silk Road, or rather Silk Roads, that we’re invited to travel upon, and with some women who pay tribute to it through their music and their vast talent. On May 16, 17 and 18, we’ll be treated to unique encounters between Mongolia and Iran, ancestral Turkey and Western chamber music, China, Baluchistan and more. So many concerts that it would be highly unlikely to encounter anywhere else in the world, because so unique is the Centre in its category on the planet, and it is generating a ripple effect that pushes more and more talented artists to choose Montreal to realize their musical dreams and open up their art to all kinds of other creative perspectives. In this regard, read the interview I conducted HERE with Uuriintuya Khalivan, a young musician from Mongolia and player of the morin khuur, the country’s traditional instrument, who has recently settled in our cultural metropolis.
From 17 to 31 May, Francis Choinière and his Orchestre FILMharmonique will be paying a heartfelt, even epic, tribute to Hollywood composer John Williams. From Montreal to Toronto, via Quebec City and Trois-Rivières, music lovers and film buffs will have the pleasure of reliving the thrills that Williams’ symphonic scores have probably given them. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Schnidler’s List, Jaws, E.T., Jurassic Park and many more will follow under the baton of conductor Choinière. I spoke to Francis about the music of John Williams and what it means to the musical world in general and to him in particular.
In our little corner of the Montreal alternative scene, the announcement that Corridor would be signing with the prestigious American label Sub Pop in 2019 was greeted with a satisfaction tinged with pride. By becoming the first French-language band (next to Les Thugs from France) to join the ranks of this iconic Seattle-based label, this recognition has fully affirmed the status of French-language independent music on the international scene.The album Junior, which followed this announcement, emerged from an intense creative process, punctuated by a mad rush in the studio where everything went together like dominoes.
It’s often when you lose balance that you learn to keep your feet on the ground. As a result, Jonathan Robert (guitar, vocals), Dominic Berthiaume (bass, vocals), Julien Bakvis (drums), and Samuel Gougoux (multi-instrumentalist) decided to change direction, adopting a more patient approach and breaking with the intensity of the work that had marked their previous opus.
Over the following years, the four musicians meticulously refined their compositions, shaping them like collages on Ableton, while exploring new ideas remotely with their co-producer Joojoo Ashworth. Samuel Gougoux’s expertise in the electronic sphere added a new dimension to the Mimi album while preserving the post-punk essence, with its dynamic guitars, soaring synthesizers, and stripped-down analog identity.
The result of this period of reflection is a heartfelt account of the realities of life as an artist, exposing the challenges of surviving in the music industry and the difficulties of self-promotion in the digital age. It’s also an authentic meditation on the lonely moments when faced with the naked vision of one’s own adult life.
Ahead of their European tour, the band kindly granted PAN M 360 an interview.
PAN M 360: Your album Junior was composed in a few weeks, in a sort of rush, whereas with Mimi you were able to take your time. The album was created as a collage of ideas, how did this process take shape?
Jonathan Robert: In a way, the album was a reaction to what we’d done in the past. Instead of persevering in one direction, we wanted to go further in the development of the songs. We recorded a sort of library of ideas which we then put together on Ableton, a bit like an electronic artist would have done. Most of the songs are collages. For example, the song “Mourir Demain” is made up of four elements from different periods over three years. We really approached it as a day job. The evening jams with the day jobs just wouldn’t bring the same energy as it used to.
PAN M 360: Speaking of jobs, the song “Mon Argent” highlights the struggle for artists to make a living in the music industry. We can easily have this fantasy that musicians like you, signed to labels such as Sub Pop, manage to make a living from their music. How do you actually go about earning a living as a musician?
Jonathan Robert: We manage to make a living from it sporadically, when we tour for example. But the wheel has to keep turning, it’s quite challenging to be constantly touring and producing. The two have to alternate, like a cycle. There isn’t the income there used to be. So you have to find it elsewhere. We’re not making big news, we’re not Drake, let’s say. When things are a bit slow with the group, I put my energy into my solo project Jonathan Personne. I also take on illustration and graphic design contracts and direct video clips. Julien has his own screen printing business with his company. During the making of this album, we were all doing work outside the group. As you get older, you reach a more conflicted point where you wonder whether you want to make music or something else. For most of us, we manage to do things related to music, as much as possible for Samuel, Dominic, and myself.
Samuel Gougoux: Apart from Corridor, I play in other projects, including short films. I also did some music for a web series last summer. What I do always has a strong musical element. This work is easy to fit in with touring schedules. We’re all self-employed, which gives us flexibility in our schedules.
Dominic Berthiaume: It all depends on the economic context. For the album Mimi, we didn’t get any help or funding, we all paid for it from our own pockets. There’s also a difference between playing as a solo artist and playing in a band. In a group, the income gets split, which makes a big difference. A band has to work really hard for the members to be able to live on that only. You have to be hyperactive, if you’re not touring then you must be writing your next album. As soon as your music stops being played on the radio, you don’t really make any money at all.
PAN M 360: Even though the new album Mimi contains more electronic elements, you’re still a band that can easily be associated with the post-punk genre. Without wanting to label you, what does this genre represent for you?
Jonathan Robert: Not much … We never really decided we were going to do post-punk. Our influences are pretty diverse. I think it was also because of the local venue we used to have. When we used to play at Cité 2000 we were surrounded by metal bands so it was like a volume war. We had to play really loud, and that’s kind of what got the band started playing quite loud. Dom and I played in punk bands when we were younger. All those reflexes got into the band one way or another.
Dominic Berthiaume: We have always been a mix of all our influences, so to speak. If I’m thinking about the vocals or the melodies, it’s never had anything to do with post-punk. We’ve never been interested in doing spoken or shouted melodies. We’ve always been inspired by The Beach Boys vocals, which are quite ’60s and psychedelic. But the tone of the guitars is never very far from post-punk.
PAN M 360: Jonathan, you’re the one who writes the lyrics for the band. Generally speaking, the lyrics are fairly abstract and take time to reveal a certain meaning in the listener’s imagination. The melodies are very intuitive and satisfying to sing. How do you write your lyrics?
Jonathan Robert: To be honest, I actually write them a bit by default, a bit like Dom and I sing by default (laughs). It was like throwing a hot potato at each other, but eventually, I got comfortable with it and found my style over time. I’m not capable of writing down exactly what I have in mind. The vocal side comes to me like a melody. I choose the words that best fit into the melodic phrase. It’s not the words or phrases that determine the tone of the song.
Dominic Berthiaume: The word “dog” comes up a lot in Jo’s writing. So does “Ah non.”
Jonathan Robert: It’s true, they’re on the other three albums. The “Ah non” is a bit the opposite of the “yeah” (laughs).
PAN M 360: The visualizer for “Mon Argent” was made by you, Jonathan. It shows a funny little cat figure. Can you tell us about this video?
Jonathan Robert: The video was made with a lot of effort (laughs). I went to Dominic’s to get some curios and an old TV. The wire connecting my computer to the TV broke the day I was shooting, so I had to improvise something in a day.
Dominic Berthiaume: The cat figures are mine, I’ve got quite a collection of them in my apartment.
Photo credit : Delphine Snyers
PAN M 360: The video for “Mourir Demain” was produced by Paul Jacobs. The song is about death, but not in a gloomy way. What does this song mean to you?
Jonathan Robert: It’s about coming to terms with your own sudden death. I wrote it when I had to fill in my will for some life insurance. I realized that I’d reached an age where I had to think about things like that. It made me laugh, even if it’s not funny. When songs make me laugh, it’s usually a good sign.
PAN M 360: The song “Caméra” is about self-promotion in the digital age. Is this some kind of criticism about social media?
Jonathan Robert: It’s about this kind of conflict, this pressure to be on social media. We know that’s how it works, but sometimes it’s hard to draw the line because it’s so unhealthy. I hate that shitty self-promotion (laughs). I hate it but we still do it. Not everyone is charismatic or articulate. The less I show my private life, the happier I am. It’s OK to be introverted, isn’t it?
Samuel Gougoux: It’s a necessary step. We just want to make music, but that comes with the job. Talented people don’t always have this self-promotional side to them, and they may suffer from it more than they used to.
Dominic Berthiaume: Things were very different barely ten years ago. Now it’s implicit that it’s part of your job. You don’t have the choice of being good or resourceful when it comes to social media. Today, it has become a big part of the job. You’re required to engage in self-promotion, it’s not something someone else can do for you. You need to make it your own.
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