{"id":95478,"date":"2023-04-21T11:40:22","date_gmt":"2023-04-21T15:40:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/?post_type=interviews&#038;p=95478"},"modified":"2023-04-21T11:40:24","modified_gmt":"2023-04-21T15:40:24","slug":"youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk","status":"publish","type":"interviews","link":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/","title":{"rendered":"You&#8217;re Interviewing Mac Wetha (Talk)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Meet Mac Wetha, a quickly rising producer, DJ, instrumentalist, and vocalist from London, UK. Releasing his debut album <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends <\/em>in 2019, his initial success was largely restrained to the underground. Listeners praised his laid-back, meticulously crafted lo-fi takes that took on elements of grime, bedroom pop, and contemporary British R&amp;B, all laid out against jazzy drums, interesting guitar riffs courtesy of Wetha himself, and the distinctly fuzzy overtones shrouding the project as a whole. In 2023 though, the artist has completely transcended this initial offering\u2014and proven he\u2019s ready for the big time\u2014with a direct sequel: <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends 2<\/em>.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Throughout its 20-odd minutes, <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends 2<\/em> completely delivers on its title\u2019s promise\u2014friends getting together and simply having fun making music. Each track is imbued with youthful joy and energy that could never be replicated artificially, and a streak of camaraderie and passion runs through the entire album.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>We spoke with Mac Wetha to discuss reflections on the new album, aspirations for the future, and his fun, collaborative approach to creating music with his friends.<\/strong>\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: I expected you to be chilling now that the album is out, but I heard you were already back into sessions this week. Did you take much of a break?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MAC WETHA: <\/strong>Yeah, I haven\u2019t really stopped the whole time. I\u2019ve kind of just kept running. The way the <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends<\/em> stuff came about, the first one was very much just working with people and then the song just appeared\u2014stuff the artist wouldn\u2019t put out because it\u2019s too left or not the kind of thing they want to put out under their name just yet. Or maybe I pushed the idea for the beat and they were going along with my thing, as opposed to me producing what they were seeing. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s kind of similar with <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends 2<\/em>, where it kind of just happened as I went. It didn\u2019t feel like I was locked away like, mad, fucking pulling my hair out. It was a lot of fun to make, which I think is ideally how music should be made. The whole time, I\u2019ve also been in the space on my own and writing for the next thing.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: How does it feel to have this project out in the world? How\u2019s the reception been from people in your life?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>It\u2019s been really good. I think it\u2019s my best work to date and I love all the songs. My family loves it, my friends love it, I know the features love it. And we did a really good release show and it was just a great night.\u00a0I guess, most importantly, I\u2019m very, very critical of the stuff that I make, and I listen to it so much that I lose perspective. But I always think when I truly put it out there, and let it run for a couple of days, and then listen to it on Spotify or whatever, that\u2019s the true reflection. Because now it\u2019s sitting out there and now it\u2019s done. That\u2019s when I\u2019m always the most nervous to listen to it. That&#8217;s the scary thing, but I do like the album. I love it.\u00a0When I had that listen, I was having a really bad day actually, and I was listening to it walking around the city and I was like \u2018Well, at least I made a good project.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Has anything surprised you about this album since its release?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>There\u2019s always been a running joke between my dad and me\u2014we used to live in Spain when I was a kid. We used to joke about how you\u2019d hear Pitbull on the radio, or you know that U2 song where they\u2019re like \u201c<em>Uno, dos, tres, catorze<\/em>,\u201d and then the rest of the song is in English?\u00a0 Our joke was that if you put in even any bit of Spanish, Spanish people will be like \u2018Oh fuck yeah.\u2019 And I did a bit of Spanish on the start of the song with Feux (\u201cFall Again\u201d) and I looked at the playlist it was in and immediately, it was \u2018<em>Musica por trabajar concentrado<\/em>.\u2019 I was just writing this new stuff and I was like, let\u2019s do some more Spanish. Trying to keep it up.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: What would you say are the biggest lessons learned between making <em>Friends 1 <\/em>and <em>Friends 2<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>Couple of things\u2014first of all, with the collaboration side of it, now that I\u2019m singing more, I\u2019m really glad that I brought in my friends to help with production and engineering and stuff.\u00a0In the first one, my mind wasn\u2019t on melodies or lyrics, or what I&#8217;m trying to say, it was more like trying to make the coolest sound and get the textures right, therefore leaving all the other stuff to the artist. But since I was singing on it this time, it felt right to include my friend Kurisu, Chris, who\u2019s a good friend of mine who did a bunch of co-prod. As well as Dan Holloway, Max Wolfgang, and other guys I worked with.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019m really glad I did that because there was a second where I was like \u201cNah, I should produce all of it.\u201d And then I was like, \u201cLiterally, why?\u201d That goes against the whole point of <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends<\/em>: trying not to be too fucking egocentric about it.\u00a0And then also, there\u2019s this thing I\u2019ve been thinking about lately: how when you first start making music there\u2019s a certain naivety that gives way to this pure, inspired thing. You don\u2019t overthink stuff and whatever sounds good, you do. And the more you do music, and maybe even the more success you have in whatever way you define that, the more you\u2019re like, &#8216;Oh, people like this. I need to be doing this, or that guy\u2019s doing that. So no one else is gonna find this cool.&#8217; There\u2019s that mindset.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">So in the journey from <em>Friends 1<\/em> and <em>2<\/em>, I\u2019ve been kind of unlearning stuff that I\u2019ve learned along the way to almost get back to the same spot I was at in <em>Friends 1<\/em>. It was very rough around the edges. I mixed it, so the mixing isn\u2019t amazing. There are a lot of things I would change about it now, but I didn\u2019t make it now, I made it then. So I\u2019m very happy with how it was, but there\u2019s something about the way I made it. The lack of overthinking stuff, or even thinking about stuff at all\u2014just purely making it. It\u2019s a mixture of that mindset and the stuff you learn along the way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Mac Wetha - Red Hook (feat. Junior Varsity) [Official Video]\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-22ZA8K6T5U?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Your more recent work has a bit of both Mac stuff and <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends<\/em> stuff. Do you feel like you\u2019re totally switching modes when you work with other artists versus working solo?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>Yeah, I think there is a switch. When I\u2019m working with other people I\u2019m a lot more confident with writing, because I think there\u2019s pressure taken off. I put a lot of pressure on myself when I\u2019m making solo stuff. And I think a lot of that is bad news, and that\u2019s stuff I\u2019m trying to get better with.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Just signing with Dirty Hit was like a childhood dream. And then you\u2019re like, \u201cFuck, I\u2019m signed to a label, I got to make something good.\u201d Whereas before, I could make whatever the fuck I wanted. It took me a while to realize, that they signed me because they want me to make whatever I want. Dirty Hit isn\u2019t the kind of label that\u2019s gonna be like, now that you\u2019re signed you\u2019ve got to make this shit. It needs to be between these BPMs. Shave your head.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">That pressure doesn\u2019t come across so much when it\u2019s collaborative, purely because you\u2019re bouncing off of someone. Through doing <em>Friends 2 <\/em>and how fun it was, and how much better I was writing and performing with my pals, it reminded me that this is literally what I\u2019ve been doing for my whole musical life. And yet for some reason, when I signed to Dirty Hit I was like &#8216;Alright, it\u2019s just me now. <em>I\u2019m<\/em> signed, <em>I<\/em> need to make this. <em>I <\/em>need to do that.&#8217; But no, that\u2019s not how it works fucking at all!\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">There is a kind of switching of modes that I want to change and just make it all one mode. It\u2019s probably something to do with the fact that when I&#8217;m doing it myself I feel like I have to be producing and on the laptop, whereas in some of these <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends<\/em> sessions, for example, my boy Chris was engineering, and making things sound good, and he just knows how I want stuff to sound. That part had just gone out of my mind, and now it\u2019s just me and whoever I\u2019m working with, and we\u2019re just doing it.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Did you find that doing a bit of everything on this album helped the producer and artist brains work in harmony a bit better?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>Yeah, I reckon so. Every work that I do and put out brings me closer and closer to what I\u2019m really, really trying to do, as a solo artist even. The <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends<\/em> stuff sits in this fun world where anything goes and everything\u2019s fun. And that&#8217;s kind of what I want my solo stuff to be. But like I said, I dropped the first solo thing in 2020, \u201cCulver,\u201d I was so new to it then. I still feel like I\u2019m just figuring it out with every project I do and getting a little bit closer. And the <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends<\/em> stuff speeds that up a lot.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: What are some of the similarities and differences between being a frontman for a band like Scoundrel or Death Pigs versus being the end-to-end producer of your whole vision?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>I guess you just doubt yourself a lot more doing it on your own. Just bouncing ideas off people is really beneficial. Hence why I\u2019m trying to work with more friends lately.\u00a0Being a frontman in a band where you\u2019re screaming, shouting, belting stuff, going a bit nuts\u2014once you do it loads it becomes really easy and you don\u2019t feel scared of an audience, because you\u2019re just doing this crazy shit. And if someone doesn\u2019t like it, you kind of stop caring, I guess.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">But when it\u2019s more introspective and you\u2019ve written it on your own, you\u2019re way more vulnerable. Some of the relationships I have with friends who I make music with are so close because I\u2019ve seen them be very vulnerable. We\u2019ve talked and tried to get all that out into the music. But I\u2019d never been in that chair really, or if I had, it was with the band and I was just screaming. It\u2019s just more vulnerable this way when you\u2019re singing.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Criticism of my new work and bad reviews have hit me so much harder than I thought they would, and that\u2019s probably why. Because it\u2019s the first time I\u2019ve really truly been vulnerable like that and this stuff is representing me. Mac Wetha is me. The band is four of us, but this is just me. So if someone hates Wetha music (which they\u2019re more than welcome to do) that, at first, was like &#8216;Oh, well they fucking hate me as well.&#8217; But obviously, it\u2019s not personal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Do you think it also has something to do with the vibe and the subject matter? With the band it\u2019s heavy and emotional, you\u2019ve got your guard up. But with your new stuff, a lot of it is super optimistic and happy. Do you think that also adds vulnerability?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>Yeah, I think so. I think it\u2019s quite easy to write sad shit. I\u2019m definitely trying to step out of that a little bit, even though there are definitely some emo sad vibes on this project. I\u2019ve been trying for a long time to write happier stuff and make it not cringy or not insincere. It\u2019s so much harder. I think people can relate so much easier to sad stuff and it kind of just pours out of you. But writing a track that\u2019s happy and uplifting, for me anyway, that\u2019s harder. \u201cDon\u2019t You Go Falling in Love\u201d and \u201cFairytale\u201d sound quite happy but they\u2019re quite bittersweet or melancholic still. It\u2019s like a reflective kind of sadness, less immediate.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">I think since making Mac Wetha and Friends is fun and you\u2019re fucking around and having a great time with your pals, that probably comes across a bit more. Not that I\u2019m not having fun when I\u2019m making music on my own, it\u2019s just that when you\u2019re on your own or with just a couple of guys it\u2019s just a bit different, a different energy. But I was travelling when I made some of the songs on <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends 2<\/em>. In LA, it was like, fucking 40 degrees. I fucking love LA, and I\u2019m excited to be there, so I\u2019m not gonna suddenly sit down and be like \u201c[singing] My girlfriend left meeee\/I feel so bad\/I hate myseeeeelf.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"534\" height=\"800\" src=\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/MacWetha-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-95490\" srcset=\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/MacWetha-scaled.jpeg 534w, https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/MacWetha-scaled-600x898.jpeg 600w, https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/MacWetha-768x1150.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/MacWetha-1026x1536.jpeg 1026w, https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/MacWetha-1368x2048.jpeg 1368w, https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/MacWetha-200x299.jpeg 200w, https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/MacWetha-300x449.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/MacWetha-400x599.jpeg 400w, https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/MacWetha-500x749.jpeg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 534px) 100vw, 534px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Your EPs and now this album have all felt super edited and refined in terms of length, but they\u2019re always a bit of a tease since they\u2019re done so quickly. Why do you think you\u2019re drawn to briefer statements?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>In the band, I used to be able to make these fucking seven-minute-long math rock songs. And I have no problem with that, but like you say, I make a song over four minutes I\u2019m like \u201cOooh, I don\u2019t know about that.\u201d\u00a0I think it\u2019s maybe coming from the band background and now working on a computer and being able to speed stuff up, slow stuff down, chop stuff, sample stuff, and manipulate samples, it\u2019s probably a mixture of all that. And also I think simplicity, especially in <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends<\/em>, is very important. I come from a background of making beats and sampling.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">In fact, the whole idea of sampling is what made me want to make music on the computer in the first place. Hearing SpaceGhostPurrp and the way he used samples is what got me into it. I think the reason I love sampling is you listen to a beautiful piece of music that\u2019s already got this spirit, and then one bit hits you in particular and you just loop the shit out of that so people can hear that, keep experiencing that. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Do you remember the first sample you ever flipped?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>I don\u2019t think I can remember the first, but the earliest I can remember is maybe a Barney Kessel sample, the jazz guitarist. But the first beat I made which someone used (which was Bone Slim who\u2019s in the nine8collective with me) was a piano and drums, and then at the end, I did a whole minute-and-a-half long sample of a conversation, a la MF DOOM. It was so meticulous. I spent weeks on it, all these mad conversations. I was really on it, fucking all about sampling at this point. I remember sampling the original <em>Planet of the Apes<\/em> soundtrack as well, that was pretty cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Any plans for touring outside of the UK in the future?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>To be honest, it\u2019s kind of confusing what I\u2019m gonna even do live at this point. Because <em>Mac Wetha &amp; Friends 2<\/em> is what\u2019s just come out, and I suppose is what people are listening to the most, and I can\u2019t really play that live. I\u2019ve got quite a lot of stuff planned in the UK this year, and if the solo stuff goes well after this, which hopefully it will, I\u2019ll hopefully be in the States and in Canada. I\u2019d fucking love to, it\u2019s like my dream to do that.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Actually, with my band Scoundrel, we played a gig in Quebec City because we won a battle of the bands. No one knew us, I met the mayor of Quebec City, and shit, it was crazy. It was weird. We were there for three nights, it felt like a weird fever dream. All of the Quebec City guys were like, \u201cMan, fuck Montreal.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Besides incense, is there anything you need to have nearby to do your best work in the studio?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW:<\/strong> I\u2019ve got sage burning right now. I also always have a couple of these bad boys. Books. I\u2019ve got the Rick Rubin book. I know, I know.\u00a0What I\u2019m also really into is having a paper around and doing the crossword, and then writing lyrics on the paper. Because there are just so many words, and I love busy-looking stuff. So if I\u2019d take the train to the studio, I\u2019d always pick up a paper and try to do the crossword on the way. Then I\u2019d get there I\u2019d just put this next to me and any of the ideas I have, I\u2019d just jot down in here. And there\u2019s something about all the manic words fucking everywhere that\u2019s quite inspiring lyrically. But other than that, nothing really.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Mac Wetha - Fairytale (feat. Rachel Chinouriri) [Official Video]\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/i87YF2stzVM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Has much changed in terms of your process or workflow since signing with Dirty Hit? Or is it just an opportunity to keep on keeping on?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>The negative side of it, which was a small, self-inflicted side was the pressure of being on a label. It could\u2019ve been anyone and the pressure would have gotten to me because it was the first time my music and my thing have been recognized in that way. And for it to be me as a solo artist which was very new to me at the time was quite a lot of pressure that I put on myself. That was the bad change which I think I\u2019ve worked on and gotten better with now. And the good change is being able to live off of making music, I\u2019ve never really been financially stable in my life before signing to Dirty Hit, or if I have, I\u2019ve been working a lot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019ve got to the point now where I\u2019ve gotten over the confusion and I just feel very blessed to be able to do it. I do a lot of exercise and stuff that keeps me active, so I\u2019m not always just sitting there and losing my fucking mind. Also, supporting Beabadoobee on their tour. I met them in the studio and we became mates, and then we supported them on tour, which was one of the most incredible experiences of my life. It was insane. In a roundabout way, that was because of Dirty Hit. A lot of things have changed for the better after signing.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: You\u2019ve got a knack for bringing in an artist and letting the collaboration flow both ways, making something really cool that neither of you could come up with on your own. With that in mind, which two or three artists would you call up for your dream collab?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>I\u2019d love to make a song with SpaceGhostPurrp. I know, controversial opinion, he\u2019s got a lot of controversial opinions himself. But I would just love to be a fly on the wall or make something with him and understand, and see how his mind works. Because I think he just makes such insane stuff. And then TisaKorean, he\u2019s so sick. So fun. I\u2019d love to just make a beat for Tisa and work with him and do something fun with him, and Spaceghostpurp I\u2019d just like to see how he works. In terms of making a song together and coming out with a product like something on Mac Wetha and Friends or something, maybe Yung Lean. Corbin, maybe. Let\u2019s do both.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Have you found it tough to be such a genre-rejecter in this brand-focused landscape of music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>MW: <\/strong>I don\u2019t struggle with it, but I do think sometimes about how I\u2019m perceived and stuff. But at the end of the day, I\u2019m just making whatever comes to me and feels right, and trying not to think too much further than that.\u00a0I think with <em>Cloud Paint<\/em>, as much as I love the project, I was very much like, &#8216;Alright, let\u2019s do this kind of more rocky shit now.&#8217; I think I was just putting myself in a box a bit too much. I think it can be beneficial to give yourself limitations so you have a set of rules you can bend and play with, but you\u2019ve still got this focus.\u00a0But I think I\u2019ve come to realize that what\u2019s best for me right now is just to come to the studio and make whatever I want, and then have loads of songs and see which ones feel right to put out. Hopefully, there\u2019s something that unites all the sounds and comes through it and keeps it all in the same universe.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">All the artists I have the most love for, and respect for, musicians that I idolize\u2014specifically people like Lava La Rue, Biig Piig, tendai, Dora Jar, and Bone Slim\u2014I see them not give a single fuck about whatever\u2019s going on, and just make whatever they want. And they have inspirations obviously, and things they draw from, but that\u2019s kind of far removed from the trend of the day on TikTok or whatever. That\u2019s the stuff that lasts the longest, even if it doesn\u2019t blow up in a day and make enough money to buy a fucking house. That would be sick, but also, the point of making music isn\u2019t making money; it\u2019s making sick music.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Meet Mac Wetha, a quickly rising producer, DJ, instrumentalist, and vocalist from London, UK. Releasing his debut album Mac Wetha &amp; Friends in 2019, his initial success was largely restrained to the underground. Listeners praised his laid-back, meticulously crafted lo-fi takes that took on elements of grime, bedroom pop, and contemporary British R&amp;B, all laid [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1390,"featured_media":95487,"menu_order":0,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_crdt_document":""},"categories":[4628],"tags":[],"genre":[8096,3199,3220,3265,6250],"class_list":["post-95478","interviews","type-interviews","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interviews-en","genre-alternative-2-en","genre-indie-pop-2","genre-lo-fi-2","genre-rb-2","genre-uk-funky-en"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.1.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>You&#039;re Interviewing Mac Wetha (Talk) - PAN M 360<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"We spoke with the young UK producer, Mac Wetha, who was feeling particularly chatty, about pressure and his new album, Mac Wetha &amp; Friends 2.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"You&#039;re Interviewing Mac Wetha (Talk) - PAN M 360\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"We spoke with the young UK producer, Mac Wetha, who was feeling particularly chatty, about pressure and his new album, Mac Wetha &amp; Friends 2.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"PAN M 360\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/panm360\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2023-04-21T15:40:24+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/mac.jpeg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"1280\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"1024\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:site\" content=\"@PANM360\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"19 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/\",\"name\":\"You're Interviewing Mac Wetha (Talk) - PAN M 360\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/#website\"},\"primaryImageOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/#primaryimage\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/mac.jpeg\",\"datePublished\":\"2023-04-21T15:40:22+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2023-04-21T15:40:24+00:00\",\"description\":\"We spoke with the young UK producer, Mac Wetha, who was feeling particularly chatty, about pressure and his new album, Mac Wetha & Friends 2.\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/#primaryimage\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/mac.jpeg\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/mac.jpeg\",\"width\":1000,\"height\":800},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Accueil\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Interviews\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":3,\"name\":\"You&#8217;re Interviewing Mac Wetha (Talk)\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/\",\"name\":\"PAN M 360\",\"description\":\"Le m\u00e9dia num\u00e9rique de la musique !\",\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/#organization\"},\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/#organization\",\"name\":\"PAN M 360\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/\",\"logo\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/PAN-M360_Logo_RGB.jpg\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/PAN-M360_Logo_RGB.jpg\",\"width\":1663,\"height\":631,\"caption\":\"PAN M 360\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/\"},\"sameAs\":[\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/panm360\/\",\"https:\/\/x.com\/PANM360\",\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/panm360\/\",\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/company\/panm360\/\",\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCHEFHd3UhIrV6EJ3ltzVKOA?view_as=subscriber\"]}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"You're Interviewing Mac Wetha (Talk) - PAN M 360","description":"We spoke with the young UK producer, Mac Wetha, who was feeling particularly chatty, about pressure and his new album, Mac Wetha & Friends 2.","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"You're Interviewing Mac Wetha (Talk) - PAN M 360","og_description":"We spoke with the young UK producer, Mac Wetha, who was feeling particularly chatty, about pressure and his new album, Mac Wetha & Friends 2.","og_url":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/","og_site_name":"PAN M 360","article_publisher":"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/panm360\/","article_modified_time":"2023-04-21T15:40:24+00:00","og_image":[{"width":1280,"height":1024,"url":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/mac.jpeg","type":"image\/jpeg"}],"twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_site":"@PANM360","twitter_misc":{"Est. reading time":"19 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/","url":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/","name":"You're Interviewing Mac Wetha (Talk) - PAN M 360","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/#website"},"primaryImageOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/#primaryimage"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/mac.jpeg","datePublished":"2023-04-21T15:40:22+00:00","dateModified":"2023-04-21T15:40:24+00:00","description":"We spoke with the young UK producer, Mac Wetha, who was feeling particularly chatty, about pressure and his new album, Mac Wetha & Friends 2.","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/"]}]},{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/#primaryimage","url":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/mac.jpeg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/mac.jpeg","width":1000,"height":800},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/youre-interviewing-mac-wetha-talk\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Accueil","item":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Interviews","item":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":3,"name":"You&#8217;re Interviewing Mac Wetha (Talk)"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/#website","url":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/","name":"PAN M 360","description":"Le m\u00e9dia num\u00e9rique de la musique !","publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/#organization"},"potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/#organization","name":"PAN M 360","url":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/PAN-M360_Logo_RGB.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/PAN-M360_Logo_RGB.jpg","width":1663,"height":631,"caption":"PAN M 360"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/"},"sameAs":["https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/panm360\/","https:\/\/x.com\/PANM360","https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/panm360\/","https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/company\/panm360\/","https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCHEFHd3UhIrV6EJ3ltzVKOA?view_as=subscriber"]}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/interviews\/95478","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/interviews"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/interviews"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1390"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/95487"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=95478"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=95478"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=95478"},{"taxonomy":"genre","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/genre?post=95478"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}