{"id":79099,"date":"2022-09-20T12:50:17","date_gmt":"2022-09-20T16:50:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/?post_type=interviews&#038;p=79099"},"modified":"2022-09-20T13:06:19","modified_gmt":"2022-09-20T17:06:19","slug":"the-sheepdogs-you-dont-know-what-youve-got-until-its-gone","status":"publish","type":"interviews","link":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/the-sheepdogs-you-dont-know-what-youve-got-until-its-gone\/","title":{"rendered":"The Sheepdogs: &#8220;You Don&#8217;t Know What You&#8217;ve Got Until It&#8217;s Gone&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As one of Canada\u2019s most beloved acts, Saskatoon\u2019s four-time Juno award-winning rock \u2018n\u2019 roll five-piece The Sheepdogs,<em> <\/em>are headed back out on the road following the release of their latest LP, <em>Outta Sight<\/em>.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The album is a return to form for The Sheepdogs, who have enjoyed widespread international success over their 18-year history as a band. The multi-platinum group has delivered a highly-focused, concise, and well-crafted album with <em>Outta Sight<\/em> that is downright quintessential for fans of the neo-classic rock genre.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bandmates Ewan Currie, Ryan Gullen, Sam Corbett, and Shamus Currie are also joined by Gatineau-born guitarist Ricky Paquette for this tour, who will be supporting them throughout the coming months as they do shows across Canada and overseas.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We spoke with the bassist and founding member of The Sheepdogs, Ryan Gullen, just a day before their first performance in Sherbrooke, QC, before they play Montreal&#8217;s MTelus on September 22. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: You\u2019re finally back, with <\/strong><strong><em>Outta Sight <\/em><\/strong><strong>signifying your return to your default state as a touring rock \u2018n\u2019 roll band. After a few months on the road, how does it feel to be back at it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ryan Gullen: <\/strong>It feels good. Post-pandemic touring has its unique challenges, but we\u2019ve done a tour of the UK, Europe, and some stuff in Canada. It just feels really great. So much of what we were doing was just waiting for it all to come back, so it feels really good. A huge part of what we\u2019ve always done is playing live. That\u2019s how we make income, how we promote ourselves\u2014it\u2019s literally what our job is. To have that not be a part of our anatomy as a group for quite a while there was a tough thing. It\u2019s amazing to be back and to put out music, play it for people, and have that shared experience that I think we\u2019ve all been longing for this past while.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Would you say the vibe of your shows feels any different than it would prior to the pandemic?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>RG: <\/strong>It\u2019s tough to say, it\u2019s been so long. We definitely did shows during the pandemic, we were arguably one of the busier Canadian bands doing different unique shows. We played on a hotel rooftop to people on their balconies, we played drive-in shows.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But I think the biggest thing is getting back to playing in a room to a bunch of people on top of each other and the excitement that comes from that. People are just really happy to be back. Back in November of last year, we were one of the first shows when Toronto finally reopened for indoor shows. We did four sold-out nights at Lee\u2019s Palace [in Toronto], and we recorded the show and ended up releasing a live record of that. The energy of relief of people being happy to be back to what they were doing was amazing that weekend.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And that continued \u2013 when we got back to England we were one of the first shows that people were going to. The excitement is still there, I think it\u2019s a little bit of one of those \u2018you don\u2019t know what you\u2019ve got until it\u2019s gone\u2019 situations, in that people are really happy to be back doing things they love, and I think there\u2019s something special about people being in a room together experiencing music together.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: How has it been touring with Ricky Paquette?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>RG: <\/strong>It\u2019s been great, we\u2019ve done one show with him so far, and rehearsals and stuff. He\u2019s a guy we were familiar with over the years, and a guy we respected as a guitar player, so when we needed to fill this position on the tour it was kind of a no-brainer.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He\u2019s such a monster of a player, but he\u2019s also such a nice guy and has such great energy. We don\u2019t know him very well personally but having spent time together and having jammed and played a show together it\u2019s been amazing. It really brought a lot of life and positive energy into what was kind of a tricky situation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We try to not make every show the same. We think it\u2019s important not to just go up and go through the motions every single night. And Ricky\u2019s such a great player and has a new vibe to add to things to make them fresh and exciting. It\u2019s also gonna be fun to learn about somebody on the bus but also onstage too. It\u2019s cool to experience that.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: On the note of the album, it\u2019s being pointed to as one of your most focused, refined projects yet. What were the band\u2019s overall impressions of it once the recording was wrapped up?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>RG: <\/strong>The funny thing is the process of the record was probably the most unique we\u2019ve ever done. Pretty much every record we\u2019ve ever done we\u2019ve set out in some way or another to make a record. <em>Changing Colours<\/em> was sort of unique in that we went into the studio, tried things, and messed around, and six months went by and we had a record. But it was fairly focused during the time we were working on it.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With this one, it was different because we didn\u2019t necessarily sit down and say \u2018we have these 12 songs.\u2019 Basically, it was \u2018we don\u2019t know when we\u2019re gonna be able to go back and do what we do,\u2019 and generally feeling pretty down about not having any certainty. Even when this record was coming out we had to postpone a tour in Europe in February and March. It was sort of this constant repetitive situation, so we thought, let\u2019s do what we normally used to do: get in a room and make music and record it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We\u2019d just sit in a circle and jam something, and then when it was feeling really good we\u2019d hit record. We\u2019d play together and finish that song over the next day or so. It made for something that was both a surprise, but also concise, in a sense that it was all made the same way even though it was over many months of getting together when we could.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As a result, it is very focused in the sense that it\u2019s back a little bit back to the earlier days of our band when there wasn\u2019t a lot of hubbub going on. It was a bit more of a workman\u2019s attitude where we\u2019d get up and set aside days to get up in the morning and work on music together and see what came out of it. That was probably part of the reason why it feels so focused. We also didn\u2019t want to get super crazy, we wanted to make a straight-ahead rock \u2018n\u2019 roll record. Once it started taking shape we recognized that.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The Sheepdogs - I Wanna Know You (Official Visualizer)\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/dhe8glhGZTQ?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There weren\u2019t people from the label coming around. It wasn\u2019t like \u2018let\u2019s try to wrap up here because I\u2019m going out for dinner \u2026\u2019 you couldn\u2019t go to dinner. It was this funny thing. And then we made the EP in Montreal, we were there in full-on lockdown. We were staying in a hotel and we literally were the only people in the hotel, including the hotel staff! It was like <em>The Shining<\/em>. It was just the five of us in our own rooms in this big hotel in downtown Montreal. You couldn\u2019t go out for dinner anywhere, we\u2019d just sit and drink beers and hang out. It was the same thing as this, there was nothing else we could be doing, so it was a nice way to work with no distractions.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A lot of the subject matter or vibe of these songs is us looking forward to what was hopefully coming after the pandemic ended. The energy is us looking to the future, and as a result, it has a specific vibe that was the soundtrack to the future of things. It was very concise and focused because we were just doing that as much as we could to hold us over and keep us sane during one of the most uncertain times for the world, and for us as a band.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: In the past, you guys have talked about the music that\u2019s influenced your work, like The Beatles, CCR, Led Zeppelin. Were there any new influences on <\/strong><strong><em>Outta Sight <\/em><\/strong><strong>that weren\u2019t present in your other projects?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>RG: <\/strong>One of the influences that Ewan has been really into that\u2019s shining through on the record is J.J. Cale. He\u2019s Ewan\u2019s number one listened-to artist on Spotify for the past couple of years. We have a song that has a drum machine that is literally the same setup as J.J. Cale, so that\u2019s an influence that wasn\u2019t there as much during <em>Changing Colours<\/em>. And I think a lot of it is trying to not do the same thing over and over again, but also not suddenly coming out with, like, an EDM record. We\u2019re basically trying to look at what we\u2019ve done, and trying to not make it again and lean on it, but at the same time, not reinvent the wheel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Some songs lean more towards the later 70s. \u201cI Wanna Know You\u201d is the first song we ever used a synthesizer on, which is leaning more on like Boston or Loverboy, that was a bit different. We weren\u2019t all, like, crushing Loverboy, but it was one of those things we were all interested in exploring more.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Let\u2019s talk about bass for a second. What was your inspiration to pick up the bass in the first place?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>RG: <\/strong>It was the band. Ewan, Sam, and I started it as three guys getting together to jam. Ewan had just bought a guitar and Sam was interested in playing the drums, and I kind of just wanted to learn how to play the bass. We literally all started playing our instruments together, which almost sounds too good to be true but is 100% the truth.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the music I was exposed to growing up in the late \u201890s and early 2000s, the bass was a lot of holding down root notes with a pick. But when I started listening and paying attention to the bass, I could see players use the bass as an interplay between drums and guitar. I see it as kind of the glue that holds everything together because it\u2019s a rhythmic instrument but you\u2019re also playing notes.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: Did you find it tough to stay in practice during the major lockdowns at the beginning?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>RG: <\/strong>Oh yeah. I basically didn\u2019t play an instrument forever. It was sort of a weird thing because some people took on a lot, but others did the opposite. I didn\u2019t think it would last that long, so I didn\u2019t think to keep my chops up.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As time went on I became interested in experimenting with other instruments. I played a lot of pedal steel, but no, I didn\u2019t spend a lot of time playing until we finally got back together. It wasn\u2019t something I did a lot of. It felt like \u2018we\u2019re gonna take a little break, take a couple of long weekends, and move on.\u2019 I just chilled my brain for, basically, the first time in my adult life.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: <\/strong>Did you pick up any new hobbies or pastimes during the lockdowns?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>RG: <\/strong>I took to cooking a lot more for me and my girlfriend, and that was fun for the first while. I played video games which is something I don\u2019t do too much, I played a lot of <em>Red Dead Redemption<\/em>. I tried to learn pedal steel, that\u2019s a real bastard of an instrument to try and learn. I messed around a bit but not in any sort of real capacity. I mostly just took advantage of having downtime.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As an artist and musician, you\u2019re forever in a state of thinking super far ahead, and also in a state of F.O.M.O. I\u2019m not thinking about the tour starting tomorrow, I\u2019m thinking about the next tour or the next record.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360: What\u2019s next for The Sheepdogs after this tour (and presumably, a solid rest)?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>RG: <\/strong>It\u2019s always tough to say, you\u2019re catching me on day zero, and these dates go until the end of January. There are obviously things we\u2019ve started having conversations about \u2013 everything gets planned very far in advance. We always want to be making music and we definitely want to challenge ourselves to increase the frequency that we put out music.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Will we have a new record off the top of next year? No. But the plan is to go on tour, continue moving forward, chase different opportunities, and always be trying.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Once we do take a bit of rest after this long, busy time, we\u2019re gonna take the time to do new music, enjoy the tour, be in the moment, and figure it out once the dust settles \u2013 without waiting too long. We\u2019ve been a band for 18 years, and things have changed, but we\u2019ve never really strayed from the formula of it all: friends getting together and making music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The Sheepdogs play w\/ Boy Golden at MTelus on September 22. 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