{"id":47321,"date":"2021-06-12T14:54:59","date_gmt":"2021-06-12T18:54:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/?post_type=interviews&#038;p=47321"},"modified":"2021-06-12T15:51:13","modified_gmt":"2021-06-12T19:51:13","slug":"undrum-festival-montreal-suoni-per-il-popolo-ben-reimer-susie-ibarra-glen-kotche","status":"publish","type":"interviews","link":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/undrum-festival-montreal-suoni-per-il-popolo-ben-reimer-susie-ibarra-glen-kotche\/","title":{"rendered":"Undrum this, conventional music-making!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019ve met with Ben Reimer, drummer and initiator of this new festival.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps:\/\/youtu.be\/2-GKgdeLpcA\n<\/div><figcaption>Video interviews with many artists participating in the Undrum fest 2021<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pan M 360 : Hello Ben! How did you come up with this great idea for a concert series?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ben Reimer : <\/strong>well, it was years in the making, at least in my mind! Since I am a drummer and also a member of Architek percussion group, I am well aware of the possibilities of drums in avant-garde and contemporary music, added to those in jazz, improv, metal, pop, rock and so on. I am a fan of all kinds of music, big range. So I wanted to bring together all those great people, musicians and thinkers of new music, that use the drum kit in innovative ways and contribute to \u2018\u2019undo\u2019\u2019 the usual ways of playing the instrument and shake the public\u2019s conventional idea of music making with drums.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So with the help of my friends at Architek and also Peter (Burton) from Suoni per il popolo, everything was put in place this year to inaugurate this series within the festival and we called it Undrum, for obvious reasons! I am aware there are a lot of drum fests already out there (right here in Montreal, there is a very good one!), and they\u2019re great, but I wanted to showcase styles and musical ideas that are less well represented in these gatherings, individual voices that express themselves in unconventional ways through drum kit playing. That\u2019s the goal.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pan M 360 : May we call you the Tim Brady of drums?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ben Reimer : <\/strong>LOL! Well, I haven\u2019t done a piece for 100 drums yet, so, I don\u2019t know\u2026 But hey, just for the principle of it, that would be an honor! And that wouldn\u2019t be so far from the truth. I have my (drumming) hands in art and vernacular music-making, be it metal and rock, and also contemporary opera and drum kit concertos, which I have done! The difference is that I do not compose. I play others\u2019 music, and I like it that way. I love the relationship I develop with composers (like Nicole Liz\u00e9e for example). That\u2019s my thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pan M 360 : Can you drive us through some of the shows coming next in the series?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ben Reimer : <\/strong>Sure! This Sunday is Part 2, and it starts with Greg Harrison from Toronto. Great artist, also associated with Jeremy Dutcher. He plays these wonderful grooves where he doubles as a synth player while drumming! Some very ambient, accessible atmospheres mixing delicate drum kit with entrancing bass lines. That\u2019s something to look for.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Then there\u2019s Montreal\u2019s Mili Hong who is well versed in beautiful straight ahead jazz, but here will dazzle with incredible free improv, with purely acoustic drum kit. She knows how to invent great textures with her instrument.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ian Chang from Sun Lux will also be there. He is like a one man DJ-orchestra! Drumming and also triggering all kinds of sound effects with simultaneous electronics. It\u2019s shocking to hear what can come from a single person on a stage!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jason Tait will entertain a second set. He comes from The Weakerthans, from Winnipeg.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Greg Harrison (grej) drums\/electronics\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6cbMcc6QF34?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Ian Chang solo live set on Sensory Percussion\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ghrVbwZXlPs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pan M 360 : And later on in the month, legendary names will be in town : Susie Ibarra, from Tzadik\/John Zorn fame and also Glenn Kotche from Wilco! Was it difficult to bring them along ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ben Reimer : <\/strong>No, not at all! I was introduced to Glenn via David Cossin from Bang on a Can in New York, with whom I collaborated on some work by Lukas Ligeti (drummer and son of the famous composer Gy\u00f6rgi Ligeti!). Glenn did some lectures for my students at McGill. Like me, he is part of the \u2018\u2019popular\u2019\u2019 and \u2018\u2019classical\u2019\u2019 worlds. I never met Susie, but I know about her work, of course, and she has an idea of my own, so there is a lot of respect. She also is a wonderful lecturer, researcher and scholar of her instrument. I can\u2019t wait to hear them and see the public\u2019s reaction to their incredible playing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They are wonderful and very generous individuals. So, no, it wasn\u2019t difficult at all to bring them to the roster.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe style=\"border: 0; width: 100%; height: 42px;\" src=\"https:\/\/bandcamp.com\/EmbeddedPlayer\/album=3646951857\/size=small\/bgcol=ffffff\/linkcol=0687f5\/transparent=true\/\" seamless=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/newfocusrecordings.bandcamp.com\/album\/susie-ibarra-talking-gong\">Susie Ibarra: Talking Gong by Claire Chase, Alex Peh, Susie Ibarra<\/a><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"William Paterson University: Susie Ibarra, percussion\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/H39-EGqZtOk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pan M 360 : What\u2019s the state of the drum kit as a popular instrument, considering that nowadays, popular and far reaching radio, tv and digital waves have been taken over by rap and hip hop, where the drums aren\u2019t a usual feature?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ben Reimer : <\/strong>Oh, that is a massive question! It depends if you\u2019re a scholar, a teacher or a player. But I\u2019d say that for sure it\u2019s a different landscape out there from 20 or 50 years ago. I meet some students that have a surprising lack of knowledge of the historical figures of the instrument, and rock music! That being said, they are curious, and once there in the game, they come up with questions about Keith Moon and so on, so then we talk and discuss and they drink it, you know. And, as much as the internet can be a pain, it can also be a way for them to listen and discover lots and lots of things that we didn\u2019t have access to decades ago. So, we have to tamper a bit the idea of lack of knowledge.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That being said, there is a new brand of young drummers arriving with academic and literate credentials. They come from university programs, like McGill in jazz, and they are very well trained and hungry for originality. I\u2019d love to see more classical programs also giving space to the knowledge of drums, and the possibilities of this instrument in a more avant-garde context. But things are evolving. I gave lectures on drum history to classical percussion students. So things are changing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"TQC - Glenn Kotche presented by Corbett vs Dempsey &amp; Expo CHGO - April 10, 2021\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/GdZEUfwQ2f4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pan M 360 : Would you say that walls between \u2018\u2019pop\u2019\u2019 and \u2018\u2019classical\u2019\u2019 music-making are going down?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ben Reimer : <\/strong>I think we\u2019re getting there! You know, with pioneering work and advocacy done in the last 25 years or so by ensembles like Bang on a Can, Alarm Will Sound, or right here by Architek, mentalities are going in the right direction, I\u2019d say. But there is still some separation.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pan M 360 : What artists are blowing up your mind these days?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ben Reimer : <\/strong>Oh, many, many! All those at Undrum, of course, but also some recent metal drumming. There are incredible drummers out there. So I get inspiration from them, I practice and I even get some new music based on that from Nicole Liz\u00e9e!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pan M 360 : What does the drum kit brings to music-making that other percussion instruments don\u2019t?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ben Reimer : <\/strong>Technically, you have the option of having four things happening at the same time, so it creates a multi-limbed independance which is at the core of what makes a drum kit performance. And also, what I love about it, is the fact that you have all those great individuals, creating their own personal sound world but all tied in with the 100 year-history and knowledge of this instrument. It\u2019s all tied-in with the politics and social fabric of the last 100 years! Yeah. And, best thing, in my mind : you can create such great grooves with it! That\u2019s the beauty of the drum kit : playing it makes people wanna get up and dance!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pan M 360 : Thanks Ben, and all the best with the series!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ben Reimer : <\/strong>Thanks to you!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve met with Ben Reimer, drummer and initiator of this new festival.&nbsp; Pan M 360 : Hello Ben! How did you come up with this great idea for a concert series? Ben Reimer : well, it was years in the making, at least in my mind! 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