{"id":26600,"date":"2020-08-23T13:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-08-23T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/?post_type=interviews&#038;p=26600"},"modified":"2020-08-21T15:04:01","modified_gmt":"2020-08-21T19:04:01","slug":"no-joy-trouve-chaussure-a-son-pied","status":"publish","type":"interviews","link":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/no-joy-trouve-chaussure-a-son-pied\/","title":{"rendered":"Brand new shoes for No Joy"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Photo: Mathieu Fortin<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Established in 2009 by Victoria, BC native Laura Lloyd and Californian Jasamine White-Gluz, No Joy began their shoegaze epic with riffs exchanged via email, before White-Gluz moved to Montreal. Six singles, three EPs and four albums were born from this fruitful collaboration, until Lloyd left the ship in 2015, shortly after the release of <em>More Faithful<\/em>, leaving White-Gluz alone to stare bereft at her footwear. Now in charge of the band\u2019s destiny, White-Gluz ventured slightly outside of shoegaze, notably during her collaboration with ex-Spacemen 3 member Peter Kember (Sonic Boom), on the <em>No Joy\/Sonic Boom<\/em> EP of 2018, where she set aside the six-string in favour of electronic tools.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s with this spirit of openness that White-Gluz attacked the composition of the band\u2019s fifth album, <em>Motherhood<\/em>. Although No Joy had shown an interest in ingredients other than shoegaze from the beginning, notably the often groovy bass and glittering pop flights, this new effort takes the Montreal band elsewhere, while remaining firmly rooted in the basics of the genre. Trip-hop, nu-metal, and trance are now added to No Joy\u2019s menu. Jasamine White-Gluz told us about the creation of this album, which could well redefine the boundaries of shoegaze.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/En-trevue-No-Joy2-23-aout-cp-Mathieu-Fortin-819x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26516\"\/><figcaption><em>Photo: Mathieu Fortin<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360:<\/strong> <em>Motherhood<\/em>, which has just been released, is the first full-length album without guitarist Laura Lloyd. Did her departure change your way of composing? Listening to this new record, it feels like you\u2019ve given yourself more freedom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Jasamine White-Gluz:<\/strong> Laura left five years ago; there was no drama, no tragedy, it was just that she had come to terms with what she wanted to do with No Joy, and wanted to move on. So the last record she was on was <em>More Faithful<\/em> in 2015. Garland Hastings, our drummer since the beginning, left in 2017, after the release of the <em>Creep<\/em> EP. With him too, it went well, we could see it coming, so nobody was surprised when he announced he was leaving. For sure, their departure changed the dynamics of the band. I would say that it provoked a different kind of collaboration. You know, we\u2019ve played together for so long and made so many records, it\u2019s normal that it affects the band; that\u2019s why I did these three EPs before <em>Motherhood<\/em>. I wanted to see where I was going because after Laura left, I was in charge of a lot of the compositions and the destiny of the band. I see these departures more as a progression, after all. So these EPs allowed me to further define my style, and what No Joy would become.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"No Joy - Why Mothers Die (Official Audio)\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/vx5fuqPFfA0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360:<\/strong> With the elements of trip-hop, trance, and nu-metal found on <em>Motherhood<\/em>, would you say you\u2019ve made a radical change from what No Joy used to do?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>JWG:<\/strong> I\u2019d say so. For me, shoegaze is not just \u201crock\u201d, it implies certain manipulations of sounds&#8230; Take Kevin Shields for example. He did remixes, had fun with drum loops&#8230; Or Primal Scream. They started out as a shoegaze band and then branched off into something much more danceable with <em>Screamadelica<\/em>, while still retaining the essence of shoegaze. Which means that shoegaze can include all kinds of things, and <em>Motherhood<\/em> is for me an extension of that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360:<\/strong> Would you say it\u2019s No Joy\u2019s most ambitious album?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>JWG:<\/strong> Absolutely, definitely. This is the album where I tried everything (<em>laughs<\/em>). All the ideas I had, all of them! A lot of times, I\u2019ve tried an idea and wondered if it\u2019s stupid or interesting, but I\u2019ve really tried everything instead of trying to stick to a style. And we\u2019ve kept almost everything! At one point we said to ourselves, what if we added a baby\u2019s laughter?, and it ended up on the record! It wasn\u2019t easy to fit all these different sounds into the mix, though&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"No Joy - Dream Rats (feat. 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I wanted to give the feeling we had fun making this record. We recorded it in Montreal, at the studio Toute Garnie, which belongs to Braids.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360:<\/strong> Your sister Alissa, who plays guitar with Arch Enemy, is also on the album. Is this the first time you&#8217;ve collaborated with her?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>JWG:<\/strong> Yes, it\u2019s the first time we\u2019ve worked together since we\u2019re adults. We\u2019re rarely in the same place at the same time, and when it happened, we felt we had to do something together.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360<\/strong>&nbsp;: So, she\u2019s where the nu-metal sounds on the record come from?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>JWG:<\/strong> Um&#8230; no. I\u2019m older than her, I grew up listening to nu-metal, whereas she\u2019s more purist, more into Swedish metal. She knows a lot more about metal than I do! So the nu-metal on the record, it comes from me&#8230; and I still like it! (<em>laughs<\/em>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"No Joy - Birthmark (Official Video)\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/cR1aFiOuNY0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360<\/strong>&nbsp;: You come from a musical family, right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>JWG:<\/strong> No, not really. It\u2019s just me and my sister who play music in my family. But my parents, on the other hand, are great music lovers. There was always music playing at home, and my mother has a huge collection of vinyls. There were also always instruments lying around at home, so my sister and I used to play with keyboards, guitars&#8230; It must have been very annoying for my parents, because we made a lot of noise. We didn\u2019t know how to play, but that\u2019s how we learned.<em>&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360:<\/strong> Who else is on the album?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>JWG:<\/strong>&nbsp;So there\u2019s Tara McLeod, who was in the teen metal band Kittie. She\u2019s been playing with me for about three years, and I can tell you she\u2019s the best guitarist I\u2019ve ever met. She plays so amazingly \u2013 it\u2019s crazy! I\u2019m nothing compared to her. Our new drummer is Jamie Thompson, who played with Unicorns, Islands, Esmerine. He\u2019s really talented too. These two exceptional musicians have really helped me improve myself. Madeleine Campbell, who is our touring sound engineer and who knows us very well, did the production with Chris Walla of Death Cab for Cutie. We were lucky because he was there in the studio when we were recording, so he helped us out. He was in Montreal for a good six months, I think \u2013 we were lucky!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"No Joy - Four (Official Video)\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/qK4AnDofuDs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PAN M 360:<\/strong> About the title, did you pick it because you became a mother?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>JWG:<\/strong> No, not at all! In fact many of the songs on the record revolve around people getting older, mothers, fertility, family&#8230; Observations I made of friends, my family, myself, the relationships of people around me with their mothers and grandmothers&#8230; Family in general, femininity, fertility, what is a mother, who can be a mother, what is the role of a mother&#8230; The fact remains that I\u2019m not a good storyteller, I prefer people to make up their own minds about the lyrics. I didn\u2019t realize, when I was writing these songs, that they were more or less on the same subject. So I thought that the word \u201cmotherhood\u201d fit well with all these themes \u2013 and I think it sounds a bit metal too! (<em>laughs<\/em>)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Photo: Mathieu Fortin Established in 2009 by Victoria, BC native Laura Lloyd and Californian Jasamine White-Gluz, No Joy began their shoegaze epic with riffs exchanged via email, before White-Gluz moved to Montreal. 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