{"id":18664,"date":"2020-05-08T15:48:00","date_gmt":"2020-05-08T19:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/interviews-panm360\/pantayo-les-championnes-du-kulintang\/"},"modified":"2020-05-09T18:58:42","modified_gmt":"2020-05-09T22:58:42","slug":"pantayo-les-championnes-du-kulintang","status":"publish","type":"interviews","link":"https:\/\/panm360.com\/en\/interviews-panm360\/pantayo-les-championnes-du-kulintang\/","title":{"rendered":"Pantayo: Kulintang connectors"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Photo credit: Sarah Bo<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The foundation of Pantayo\u2019s sound is kulintang, which is, as band member Kat Estacio explains, \u201ca group-based form of atonal metal percussion and drum music that originated in Southeast Asia, and the specific tradition that we borrow from and are inspired by is from the Maguindanao and T&#8217;boli tribes from the southern part of what is now known as the Philippines.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The one reference point most new listeners might have for kulintang is Indonesian gamelan, a similar metallophonic music, its rich clangour familiar to anyone who\u2019s seen the famous anime film <em>Akira<\/em>. There are pronounced distinctions, however.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cKulintang is a community ensemble, meant to bring people together \u2013 in ceremonies, weddings, and so on \u2013 and is used for relaxation after a long work day,\u201d says Estacio. \u201cFrom what I know, gamelan is more like an orchestra, played in courts for the enjoyment of royalty. With this in mind, it makes sense to me that kulintang instruments are tuned to each other, and the tunings depend on the maker. There is no one way to play kulintang \u2013 innovation, interpretation, and playing according to how you feel is encouraged. It also makes sense that anybody, regardless of class or social role, can just pick up and learn kulintang.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c1960s psychedelic music popularized the gamelan,\u201d adds Jo Delos Reyes. \u201cIt was through the Western lens of the exoticization of the \u2018orient\u2019 that the gamelan became more highly researched. Gamelan has more standardized tuning, whereas kulintang does not follow specific tuning. The tuning depends on the making.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThis resulted in a really interesting and sometimes challenging songwriting experience for us, as we tried to write with tuned instruments. It made us reimagine new ways of approaching how we use kulintang-ensemble instruments in our arrangements.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Pantayo2-credit-Sarah-Bo-1024x684.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-18570\"\/><figcaption><em><em>Photo credit: Sarah Bo<\/em><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kulintang, it\u2019s vital to note, is originally women\u2019s music. \u201cThis was a tidbit that we didn\u2019t know initially,\u201d says Estacio.\u201cWe learned about it as part of our ongoing decolonization work, to inform ourselves of the context that kulintang music comes from.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWhat I learned from one kulintang teacher, Titania Buchholdt, is that since the Maguindanao culture is a mix of indigenous and Muslim cultures, some if not most of them follow a rule where a woman isn\u2019t able to travel without being accompanied by a man from her family \u2013 husband, brother, father, uncle, son. This resulted in Maguindanao Kulintang teachers in North America, and in some cases in Manila, to be mostly men.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;\u201cHowever, we also remember women, queer, and two-spirit people\u2019s important roles in a lot of Indigenous cultures. They are birth workers, mothers, healers, priestesses, musicians, performers, and occupy a variety of other roles that are central to their respective communities. It is no surprise to me to now make the connection that women are at the centre of kulintang music traditions too.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cPantayo has nurtured us in many tender and constructive ways that enabled our personal growth,\u201d adds Michelle Cruz. \u201cBeing an all-women band certainly contributes to that.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAs women,\u201d Estacio continues, \u201cI also think that playing a percussion instrument is so empowering and an important addition to the narrative of what women&#8217;s roles are, in labour and in music. At the end of the day, playing gongs, just like any percussion instrument, is very cathartic!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Pantayo-avec-AlaskaB-1024x576.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-18566\"\/><figcaption><em>Alaska B with Pantayo\u2019s Kat Estacio and Jo Delos Reyes<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Assembled bit by bit over the course of several years, <em>Pantayo<\/em> (on the label Telephone Explosion) acts as a record of its own creation, an \u201caudio diary\u201d, as the band puts it, of their collective evolution. Essential to that process was producer Alaska B, leader of Yamantaka \/\/ Sonic Titan. She\u2019d worked with Pantayo since 2014 on various projects, including the score for the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/yamantakasonictitan.bandcamp.com\/album\/severed-ost\" target=\"_blank\">award-winning video-game <em>Severed<\/em><\/a> in 2016, and <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/ytst-pbr.bandcamp.com\/album\/dirt\" target=\"_blank\">YT\/\/ST\u2019s 2018 album <em>Dirt<\/em><\/a>. Pantayo\u2019s Delos Reyes also sings in YT\/\/ST.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cPrior to this album project,\u201d recalls Kat Estacio, \u201cwe were only playing live shows and offering our KuliVersity music and cultural workshops on how we learned, and play, kulintang. Alaska offered a perspective that having an album works like an archive, so that there\u2019s a record of kulintang music played by queer diasporic women in Toronto in 2020.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt ended up being outside the scale of most projects I&#8217;ve worked on,\u201d Alaska B recalls, \u201cas it was spread over many years of on-and-off work. At the beginning, they had envisioned it as taking the gongs to outer space. I remember Michelle sending me a message using alien and ghost emojis to describe her ideas, so we tried to work some very electronic ideas into their very not-electronic gongs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI tried to keep the focus on the dynamism of live performance by wrapping their performances in electronic layers, instead of trying to build a base layer and inserting the gongs on top, so many of the gong elements were recorded first, and then built on top of, months after.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAs it was the band\u2019s first shot at making a record, we honestly did not have a clear direction, and Alaska helped us navigate this,\u201d says Cruz. \u201cShe encouraged us to really dig and find our way. She warned us that it would be a tough grind. She didn\u2019t sugar-coat anything.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAlaska ingrained in us a type of work ethic,\u201d says Estacio, \u201cto get to know our instruments so well that we could fall in love with them over and over again. I think this is one of the reasons why each song in the album sounds so different. This collection of songs is a way for us to present the different explorations we\u2019ve allowed ourselves to go through during this process.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Pantayo at FilipinoTV Freestyle Friday Part 1 [Taranta]\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/fVTRaCrSCPc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWhen we first started working on the album in February, 2016,\u201d says Eirene Cloma, \u201cAlaska asked us a question somewhere along the lines of, \u2018who is Pantayo without the gongs?\u2019 This forced us to think about our individual and collective creative expressions outside of kulintang music. Our first foray in this different way of thinking was when we wrote \u2018Eclipse\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Appropriately, \u2018Eclipse\u2019 opens the album. It\u2019s followed by lead single \u201cDivine\u201d, possibly the most accessible tune for new listeners. \u201cTo me, this song speaks about how love is action, labour, and a sacrifice,\u201d says Kat Estacio, \u201cwhether it\u2019s romantic, platonic, to your pets or plants or whatever. And most of the time, the universe conjures alignments beyond our control \u2013 and this is how we meet people whom we have deep connections with. The universality of it seemed like the perfect introduction to Pantayo.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Also appealing is \u201cTaranta\u201d, alternately vulnerable and combative, with its taunting chorus \u2013 see the TV appearance, above. \u201cThe verse and bridge melody was inspired by \u201990s R&amp;B and hip hop,\u201d says Cruz. \u201cThe lyrics were heavily inspired by assholes.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The title, Estacio explains, \u201cmeans to panic or to feel frantic, as a mindless response. The chorus came together as a way to rally up the ego, a means to tell myself to keep my composure and not let myself be affected by what other people think, and to tell those who don\u2019t got your back \u2013 or worse, those that put you down \u2013 to fuck off, ha ha!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Pantayo - Heto Na (Official Video)\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/4_khrQsXQIM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Then comes \u201cHeto Na\u201d, all gentle and elegant before switching up into some bouncy hip hop fun. \u201cIt takes inspiration from \u201970s disco OPM (Original Pilipino Music), vogue and ballroom beats from queer dance parties that we go to, and drum-and-lyre ensembles at town fiestas in the Philippines,\u201d Estacio says of this one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe lyrics came together super last minute. If I remember correctly, it was written the night before we were going to track vocals in the studio. The song asks its listeners to loosen up and dance, to take ownership of not only their bodies but also of the dancefloor.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWhen we brought on <a href=\"http:\/\/thesupercasual.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Tricia Hagoriles<\/a> as director,\u201d says Katrina Estacio (Kat\u2019s sister) of the video for the song, \u201cwe knew we wanted to portray the environment we had in mind when we wrote it: a world of our own where we can let loose, connect with our friends, and just be. Our members Eirene and Kat individually contributed music to Tricia\u2019s previous films <em>The Morning After<\/em> and <em>Lola\u2019s Wake<\/em>, respectively. We adore her work so much.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cTricia&#8217;s world-making is very much connected to her style, which made her a really good fit for this project. The \u2018Pantayo world\u2019 she created in the video feels lush, warm, and fun! Complemented by the motion graphics of Manila-based animator <a href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/user27175742\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Pauline Vicencio-Despi<\/a>, production design from Toronto-based artist <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/store.may.ari\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Cathleen Calica<\/a>, and the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.titacollective.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Tita Collective<\/a>, we were able to capture a piece of the dancefloor of our dreams.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Pantayo4-credit-Yannik-Anton-1024x866.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-18574\"\/><figcaption><em>Photo credit : Yannik Anton<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Of \u201cKaingin\u201d, Kat Estacio says, \u201cthe vibe of the song is pretty heavy and sorta silly. The synths are so anthemic, but in like a hilarious \u201980s prog-rock, anime opening-sequence sense. The title means \u2018slash and burn\u2019, as in, the agricultural process. It\u2019s a tribute to the land that we are so grateful to reside and create on \u2013 Tkaronto, the land of the Haudenosaunee, the Petun, the Wendat, the Anishnaabe, and the Mississaugas of the Credit, and a tribute to the Indigenous peoples that our instruments and kulintang knowledge is inspired by, the Maguindanao and the T\u2019boli.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe lyrics talk about oppressive systems \u2013 colonial, patriarchal, heteronormative, ableist, racist, classist, fascist, etcetera \u2013 and the exploitation, marginalization, and trauma of Indigenous peoples. These aren\u2019t easy topics to talk about, so I thought Alaska\u2019s approach of making the vibe a little light was an accessible one, to bring this message forward.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The album\u2019s fifth track, \u201cV V V (They Lie)\u201d is the one with the lowest kulintang quotient. It\u2019s also the most uplifting, to this writer\u2019s ear.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c\u2018It\u2019s uplifting for me too,\u201d says Estacio. \u201cWe wanted this song to feel free. This song feels like the closure that you give to yourself, because it sure won\u2019t come from any other person. A quick side note \u2013 in numerology, 5 is a pivotal point, the middle of 1 through 9. It symbolizes positive change and can bring hopeful opportunities in the future.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe formulated the song over bubble tea,\u201d adds Katrina Estacio. \u201cThe only prominent ensemble part is the bandir, the timekeeper. It started as a scratch recording when we were thinking of what our sound would be like if we removed kulintang, after Alaska posed us the question. It helped us describe our sound to be lo-fi R&amp;B gong punk.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/panm360.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Pantayo3-credit-Sarah-Bo-1024x579.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-18572\"\/><figcaption><em><em>Photo credit: Sarah Bo<\/em><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAlthough the process had its share of challenges,\u201d Cruz reflects, \u201cit was a process we had to go through in order to grow \u2013 and finish an album!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The stretched-out timeframe was among those challenges, for all involved. \u201cThe most difficult part was keeping on top of a project that lasts that long,\u201d says Alaska B. \u201cLives change a lot during that period, and it was constantly broken up by my touring, so it was like rediscovering the project constantly until there was nothing left to rediscover, and it was just time to call it done, export, finished.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe one great thing about it was how close we all became. We had been collaborating on <em>Severed<\/em> already, but instead of this being a project that took a month or so then never talk to each other again, it was something that kept us connected while everything else around us was changing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI&#8217;ve consumed hundreds of momos and gallons of coffee with them, working in the studio, they all attended my wedding, and Jo and I ended up logging at least 150 days on the road together with YT\/\/ST. There&#8217;s a lot of love in that record.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI guess it\u2019s fair to say a lot of our earlier recording, particularly on SoundCloud, was part of our process of how we got to where we are today,\u201d says Delos Reyes. \u201cWe worked hard to get to where we are, but really didn\u2019t plan it out this way. Working with Pantayo and our collaborators is like a creative safe space where we feel comfortable collaborating, learning, and making mistakes with each other in exploring all the sounds!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI think it\u2019s important to note that kulintang music is traditional in a sense that is the OG Filipino music (!!), and not in a sense that it is fixed and something of the past. This is still practiced and evolving every day. With the migration of Filipinos across the globe, it\u2019s great to see the ways in which kulintang music is being explored in different Filipino-diasporic communities, and how our different environments, both sonically and geographically, can create a sound.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Photo credit: Sarah Bo The foundation of Pantayo\u2019s sound is kulintang, which is, as band member Kat Estacio explains, \u201ca group-based form of atonal metal percussion and drum music that originated in Southeast Asia, and the specific tradition that we borrow from and are inspired by is from the Maguindanao and T&#8217;boli tribes from the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":62,"featured_media":18569,"menu_order":0,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_crdt_document":""},"categories":[4628],"tags":[],"genre":[3155,3265,4132],"class_list":["post-18664","interviews","type-interviews","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interviews-en","genre-electronic","genre-rb-2","genre-south-east-asian-en"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.1.1 - 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